Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?

Please share everything you've gathered so far. Please start with sites that might mean something more than an anonymous source from "crossaction news". Hell, I'll accept Fox.

Giving that this information is allegedly already gathered, I'm surprised to see that you weren't quick to provide evidence of your conspiracy...

Martial law, aerial surveillance (or worse), gun confiscations, etc all come to mind.

I have news for you. I can already see your house on Google Earth. I suppose that is an Obama conspiracy too?

No kidding the weirdness of anti-obama citizens is growing by the week. my guess is most of them are closet racists.

What really funny is the last administration did more to trash the Constitution then any we've every had in power. But yet these no minds are busy watching Glenn Beck and listen to Rush Limbaugh expel gas.

I really don't understand why people are so upset about the government having GPS coordinates of your house. If the government were coming to get your guns, there's this, like, really cool thing they call a "mailing address" that tells the government where you live. And that's been around for, like, 200 years...

And I'm sure Osama bin Laden is looking for the GPS coordinates for YOUR HOUSE so he can drop a nuke right on it... *sheesh*

Dipwads...

Have you ever actually listened to Beck?

I'm starting to think that those in the far right camp didn't take the results of this election very well. They are showing signs of shock (and perhaps PTSD) and are prone to hallucination and random outburst. Despite this, some have been able to maintain their jobs in media.

So why the need to paint them on the ground with GPS? Unless they are being targeted for something

You are thinking with a one track mind. GPS can also be used for . . . everything else it it used for aside from GPS guided missiles. Accurate maps, scheduling, and route planning could be a good start.

Anyways, you could always put you hat over the transmitter and block the signal. Then "they" would have to break out a phonebook or google. You might get an extra 2 minutes to escape.

... you mean half the country?

Umm, I don't see HALF the country spouting ridiculous conspiracy theories.

No, I was referring to those who will spout any kind of nonsense about what's gonna happen to their guns, their property, internment camps, black helicopters and what not just because their guy didn't win.

Some even go as far as to reveal their racist sides in the guise of protest.

You are thinking with a one track mind. GPS can also be used for . . . everything else it it used for aside from GPS guided missiles. Accurate maps, scheduling, and route planning could be a good start.

I always wondered if/when the U.S. Postal Service might go with GPS of the mailboxes. FedEx/UPS could probably use them nicely as well.

aaaahhh facts! Stop that!

So, I have to ask... Does this mean that everyone who's posted above now has to change their views to the opposite side?

People, stupid doesn't take sides. Stupid is stupid, regardless of which "team" is doing it; and both have given us PLENTY of examples.

Does it matter who started it? I do not like it - I do not like the Patriot Act, but it is still there. Do you want your house on gps associate with your name and all of your personal data? Historically, the Census has always been a sensitive issue, Americans have never "liked" it, felt it intrusive. Now not only do they want your data, but they want it mapable. I guess, I feel, people aren't thinking these things through to possible abuses. When it comes to government, there is always abuse.

If you want to make an argument against having a census or whether the census needs to reference your address against a GPS location that is fine. But to claim this is some vast left wing conspiracy that President Obama somehow put into motion in 2006 when he was a junior Senator who nobody thought would be elected President in 2008 is ludicrous. The right wingnuts are spouting all over the web about how Obama is going to use this data to take away their guns too. It really quite funny. If you Google this story you get right wing blog after blog all citing the same lying source about this.

Personally I'm not too worried about the government having the GPS location of my house. Garmin and other navagation companies already have this data and it really hasn't hurt my life. The IRS has my address. The government can already find me.

Personally I hope this drives right wingers to actively avoid the census. Since Congressional representation is based on the census, the more red states reduce their population by tin foil hatting themselves out of Congress the better.

"But to claim this is some vast left wing conspiracy that President Obama somehow put into motion in 2006 when he was a junior Senator who nobody thought would be elected President in 2008 is ludicrous."

Your thinking is ludicrous, The Liberals have been working on this for years, Obama is just the current puppet in the White House.

Try not to be condescending and act like people that are Right wing, (and can think for themselves) are not looking beyond "today" or this presidency, (like the LEFT, (that continues to follow Daily Headlines, with all due diligence)) The Left does not look at the past, they look at the headlines and ask themselves, "How do I [feel] about this?" Look at the laws that are put in place by liberals (Government Based), and the Conservatives (Peoples Rights and Country Based)... Liberalism is a mental illness, Liberals do the same old boring thing and expect the results to change. This is the definition of Mental Illness.

Amen!

Republican and anonymous,

I am perplexed. Why are the two of you so scared about this? Doesn't the government already know where your house is? I fail to see why this poses a threat.

Please explain what a location marker (address) has to do with a "storm brewing."

Wow, I can see that we live in completely different worlds. I'm going to enjoy the sun and hit the golf course; I'll leave you to tidying up the Y2K bunker.

I appreciate your answer, and I sincerely hope (and expect) that you are wrong. I'm familiar with Harold Koh and I don't think that he's the best choice for the State Department; however, I think it is a really, really big stretch to somehow link world Sharia law with a more efficient census system.

I guess we'll see, but I'm not going to lose any sleep anytime soon.

They can legally come up to your front door if you don't return your census form. Get over it. I personally find census takers less intrusive than those Jehovah's Witnesses.

Until he proves he's a U.S. citizen, he's not a U.S. president. Period. Vote or no vote.

Yes, because he clearly was born in a secret al Qaeda baby factory in Afghanistan. Then, they trained him as a political ninja. Finally, they built him a submarine made out of gold, that runs on aborted fetuses, and brought him to Hawaii.

Do you honestly think that a man could become president of the United States, with all the scrutiny that he recieves, if he wasn't a citizen? I think you give him more credit for being clever than he deserves.

Until he proves he's a U.S. citizen

You mean like when he filed the paperwork to demonstrate that he was constitutionally eligible to run? Or are you calling into question the legitimacy the government of the state of Hawaii which has stated (more than once) that the duplicates of his birth certificate that have been released to the public are accurate.

You birthers crack me up.

Thats interesting. A blog I've never heard of, in a country halfway around the world. Which links to another blog.

By the way, it may be shocking, he has a right to his privacy. He was elected, and is an American citizen under all official scrutiny. To be honest, I think that I trust Congress more than some right wing blogger I've never heard of.

Trust me, I'll be the first one to be skeptical of governmental claims, but this is ridiculous. He's your president, fair and square. If you want to criticize him for something, criticize him for his unwillingness to close Gitmo, or his unwillingness to support gay rights.

You both should also have a look at this.

I've heard the claims about the jpgs on the net enough times, but I always find the Indonesian school thing even more interesting.

It is always brought up in birth certificate conversations. I've always enjoyed how people point at it for some kind of name issue, or evidence of citizenship in Indonesia... but the whole 'Born in Honolulu" part of it is glossed over. So the name registration is of the utmost importance, and what it says of citizenship, but that it corroborates birth in the U.S. (which automatically grants natural born citizenship that cannot be rejected by a minor unless actively shown to a U.S. diplomat) is treated as though it doesn't exist.

Yes. Yes I do. He's STILL never release the "real" birth certificate. The one "in the public" as Ben Grimm likes to suggest, is a fake.

It doesn't matter that the Hawaiian Department of Health has, since June 2008, verified that they have his documentation on file as per all rules and procedures?

That if the document presented was a fake, they would have every reason in the world to point out a fraudulent presentation of their own documents and system?

McCain was born in Panama and isn't a citizen either, according to some. So neither major party had a valid candidate. Or maybe they both did, Obama won, and it's time to drop this whole stupid conspiracy theory.

McCain was born in Panama

To an American Service member stationed there. Not even close to the same situation.

To an American Service member stationed there. Not even close to the same situation.

Correct. Because Obama was born to an American citizen living in America.

If our governement won't support our Constitution, I don't support them. It is my belief that our government is at war with the American people, and unfortuantely, many like you don't see it. Well, maybe you will when they begin their oppression. It's coming, mark my words, it's coming.

You're perfectly within your rights to sit there and be a sore loser. To be honest, I think the last 8 years were terrible for the American people, with the patriot act, two wars, a terrorist strike. If you want to hate on Obama, atleast do it for a real reason, and not these annoying little technicalities you come up with.

We get it that you hate Obama. But please, hate him for the right reasons, like his unwillingness to support gay rights, or his unwillingness to close gitmo immediately.

anonymous -- birth certificates are public records. Go to Hawaii and see it for yourself.

The birth cert is a nowhere issue in debate, imo, because the president is spending tons of money to block the release of any document that would show his country of origin, and too few care to settle the issue. Which, by doing so begs the question, WHY?

McCain's country of origin was questioned, it was researched and deliberated over, and he was found to be eligible to serve as POTUS, if it came to that. The same has not been done re BO.

On privacy: In order to enroll children into school a valid birth cert has to be provided.

On public records: BO's has been "vaulted." No access.

As Juno Hera has pointed out above - you can't see it due to the lockdown. And with that, you just made my case.

Fair enough, and probably for good reason. But by the same token, I doubt we could have gone to Illinois during Reagan's first term to see his original birth certificate.

But there are newspapers with the public record of his birth at a hospital in Honolulu. Yet people won't accept it, as if someone were trying to lay the groundwork for a grand conspiracy way back then. His dad was not a US citizen, but his mom was. Many of his (distant) ancestors played important roles in making this country what it has become. So get over it already.

I see. So you accept fake documents apparently.

No. It's really quite simple. Obama has a US passport. He had one issued when he was a toddler and left the country with his mother. He likely had one or two more issued prior to his 16th birthday. And then after he turned 16 and wanted to get his next passport he would have had to physically present a certified copy of his birth certificate for inspection by a real live person working for the State Department. All of this would be in his State Department file.

Remember "passport-gate" during the election? All of those contractors and employees that were reprimanded for snooping into the files of Clinton, Obama and McCain? Many people have seen Obama's entire State Department file -- human nature being what it is, I'm certain that at least one of them would have wanted to expose him a fraud if he indeed were.

The State Department knows more about Obama than you do. Accept it. Move on.

I do accept that they no more about him than I do, but that doesn't make me feel any more confident about it all.

But the conspiracy reaches a point of being preposterous. If he wasn't born here, then they would have had to bring him in and sneak past immigration, then fake his birth certificate and get it on file with the State of Hawaii. And all for what? Why is that easier for his mother than just filing some paperwork to get him naturalized? There's just no incentive to game the system when there are only two jobs (pres and veep) that you can't have in this country if you're a naturalized citizen... otherwise immigrants are completely equal to natural born.

You say that as if any of the last dozen Presidents were not exactly the same (with the probable exceptions of Ford and Carter).

They're all power hungry bastards who think they're smarter than the rest of the world. And I'm assuming that racism plays no role when I say that the only reason you don't like Obama is because he doesn't subscribe to your ideology. You buy into this nonsense because it makes you feel like you don't need to be part of the loyal opposition.

Though I do believe that is what got him in office.

Sorry, no, anyone with a (D) next to their name would have won time time around. As far as him getting the nomination, if you believe the Pumas, he did it by stealing the caucus states -- most importantly Iowa -- there's also talk that if Edwards weren't in the running Hillary would be President today. But it's hard to revisit the past and play out scenarios.

I think that he won by a combination of that little (D) next to his name, and the fact that people genuinly like him. Same as Bush, people like the guy. He's a wildly popular president, especially among key minority voting blocks.

He knew what people wanted to hear, and how they wanted to be governed and acted accordingly. In that regard, he ran an extremely intelligent campaign.

Well, in any case, it's bad news for us all in my opinion. It simply amazes me how people still like him after all the hell he's creating for us all.

I disagree as far as the hell goes. I think that he should be doing more. We need a nationalized healthcare system now, we immediate closure of Gitmo, we need a rethinking of the graduated income tax, and we need prosecution of the guilty.

I think that we're still in hell, but Obama isn't the one who put us there, he's making steps to getting us out - far too small steps in my opinion.

I hold you and your kind personally responsible for the death of our Free Republic. I swear to God, some (many) Americans are just plain dumbasses. Yes, I said it. "close" or "delete" this post if you want. I don't give a @!$%#, but I do care about what you @!$%#s are doing to my country and my freedom.

Freedoms are irrelevant in this situation. I believe in expanded civil rights for everyone somethine BO won't committ to, he won't support gay rights.

You misunderstand where I fall. I'm extremely left, yet with a touch of libertarian. I think that the government needs to spend responsibly to fulfill it's duty to Americans. John Locke wrote that it is not only the duty, but the obligation of government to protect the natural rights of it's citizens - life, liberty, and property. If that means the the government has to spend more, than so be it.

I support responsible spending, and responsible policies which are good for the country. In my opinion, an effective healthcare system is necessary to help to bring us out of this downturn, and to bring us up to par with Western Europe.

Where is it you people who support this administrations plans have proof their ideas actually work?

Who says that I support what he wants to do? I supported D. Kucinich in the primaries, I looked at BO as the lesser of two evils in the general election. You mistake my support for a general ideal for what Barak Obama has done - which isn't much.

Where is it you people who support this administrations plans have proof their ideas actually work?

I think that the Patriot Act did more to erode our freedoms and liberties than anything Obama has said or done to this point.

Oh you think I am worried about the Government! No - I don't want those Nutz having my information - the acorns.

ACORN is the nation’s largest grassroots community organization of low- and moderate-income people with over 400,000 member families organized into more than 1,200 neighborhood chapters in 110 cities across the country. ()

So Does low and moderate income mean "Welfare"? I think it does, This is an organization that Obama stands behind, "Take from the Wealthy and give to the Lazy unemployed on welfare people. I work hard for my money and I expect others to do the same. Not sit at home on welfare. If you want to support welfare people, allow them to move into your house, and eat your food, and use your water and electricity. Allow illegal aliens to move in with you as well, make them your dependents, not mine.

So Does low and moderate income mean "Welfare"? I think it does,

No, it doesn't. These people aren't lazy, and you know it. Or maybe you don't, in which case I think that you should head down to inner-city Detroit. Talk to those men and women.

Take from the Wealthy and give to the Lazy unemployed on welfare people.

In other words, take from white people and give to black people on welfare.

We still have de facto racism in our country. I don't know if you've ever met anyone from an extremely poor area like Detroit - a place forsaken by the rest of the country. Society makes it extremely hard to rise up out of those circumstances. It can happen, yes, but it ends up being more about luck than about determination.

Meet the people you condemn. Then you won't be so quick to judge.

Lets just keep in mind here, you are the one bringing race into the conversation, not I. I never said Black or White, I know that there are all races on welfare, and I am not blaming them for being there, as I see it, the government has enabled and kept them in the situation that they find themselves, I see it as the government is their worst enemy, enabling them to have a reason not to be more productive. Killing the American spirit through welfare should be a crime.

Education is power, not just the learning but the contacts you can make in school, as we all know, most jobs we ever get are based on a contact, friend, classmate, or previous co-worker. So the education system is not all about learning, it is about networking as well.

When you take the time to look ahead, spending money ya dont have, borrowing from countries who never have show good intentions to the U.S. , printing money that deflates the value of the U.S. currency, expand government jobs while the gdp shrinks (btw this will put a greater strain on those who pay taxes), passing a stimulis bill as well as bankroll companies (AIG 2 name one) which end up bailing out the world economy, and an administration which promises more of the same for years to come will create a heavy tax burden on our children and future generations. I understand if your of the me me me generation why you could careless but those who protested do care about their childrens and their childrens future.

We can look even now at Welfare, Social Security, Medicare, Medicade and other service programs passed by congress and how often they are said to be underfunded due to expansion of them or what not....adding more social programs when the economy is on the ropes makes no sence to me or others. The response was not we are trying to understand your conserns...lets talk about this and find some common ground......no instead they are slandered and treated with hatred.

We have two basic groups in this time of insanadity those who wish to give everyone a free lunch and those others who demand everyone make sacerfices for the common good....everyone except our Federal Government need to tighten their belts in these hard times.....our Federal Government is spend spend spend. The bill will come due people. Are we still at war or not? he actions of reducing our military as well as its R&D to maintain superiorty doesnt seem all that wise to me. The troubles on our southern borders only brings token consideration by this Administration, the inability of the FDA to maintin any safty or secure food or medicines in this country....we have problems already on the table without adding new programs for the most part lack inclusion for all U.S. citizens. We are in trouble and I do not see this Administration addressing them in anyway different then the Bush adminstration other then aiding the democratic buddy buddies.

Let me be clear I find both Republican and the Democrate parties lacking in honesty or integerty to the U.S. people.

oops its everyone is expected to tighten their belts but our Federal Goverment has refused to do likewise.

oops its everyone is expected to tighten their belts but our Federal Goverment has refused to do likewise.

It is a bit ironic that you post this today...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30609363/

"Obama wants to cut $17 billion from budget"

Obama said that Americans are tightening their belts in these difficult times and want to know if Washington "is prepared to act with the same sense of responsibility."

...

White House budget director Peter Orszag said the president's plan for program cuts is just a start and that a lot more needs to be done to dig the government out of its fiscal hole, especially curbing the growth of the Medicare and Medicaid health care programs for the elderly and the poor.

that is why i posted it....in his campain he indicated that McCain's simular reduction was basicly laughable. I agree for the budget 17 mil is laughable and not really tighting anything...just more pomp and show.

When was this?

I mean, in the first debate:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/26/debate.mississippi.transcript/

OBAMA: But let's go back to the original point. John, nobody is denying that $18 billion is important. And, absolutely, we need earmark reform. And when I'm president, I will go line by line to make sure that we are not spending money unwisely.

But the fact is that eliminating earmarks alone is not a recipe for how we're going to get the middle class back on track.

Seems like this is eliminating programs that 'spent money unwisely.'

yes that is the one, your hoping the eliminated programs are unnessary like some of the earmaked stimulas money.....pork gas...come on that should of never been added...making that line by line bs (imho).